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Solheim Cup and other golf ties count as loss for Americans without trophy to take home: Analysis

2024-09-10 23:14 Last Updated At:23:21

U.S. captain Stacy Lewis at least got one thing right when her Solheim Cup team left Spain a year ago — without the crystal trophy — following a draw with Europe.

“We only have to wait another year to get this thing back,” she said.

This will be the second time the Solheim Cup, which starts Friday, is held in back-to-back years. Whenever the Ryder Cup gets postponed — the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in 2001, the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 — the women always have to adjust to move off the same year.

Lewis, however, missed the point when talking about the outcome in Spain.

“We didn't lose — it was a tie,” she said last year as Europe celebrated wildly at Finca Cortesin.

The fact the Americans flew home and the Solheim Cup remained property of Team Europe indicates otherwise, especially with Lewis speaking to the short wait to “get this thing back.”

Pay no attention to the matches ending at 14 points for each side. That's not how to keep score. The objective is to win the cup.

Europe has held the cup since 2019 and needs only 14 points to keep possession. That's how it was last year, and that's how it will be at the Robert Trent Jones Golf Club in Virginia. That alone is what should motivate a U.S. team that hasn't won since 2017 in Iowa.

The Americans still have a 10-8 advantage (10-7-1 based on match results) in a series that dates to 1990. Europe, however, has a chance to become the first team to capture the Solheim Cup four straight times. The recent dominance is such that only two Americans, Lexi Thompson and Alison Lee, have experienced winning.

Europe returns 10 of 12 players from that winning team in Spain.

A tie is little more than a moral victory, especially for a team that hasn't been able to win.

The Ryder Cup last ended in a tie in 1989, and possession stayed with Europe because it won the previous two times. The “winning” putt came from Jose Maria Canizares in the eighth match. It was 14-10 at that point, and the Americans won the last four matches.

Curtis Strange prevented Europe from having the better score when he ripped a 2-iron into 5 feet on the 18th to secure a 2-up victory.

His remembrance of that day 35 years ago speaks to the gray area of a tie.

“We were all disappointed. The team aspect overrides any individual play,” said Strange, who went 1-3-1 and remains the only American to have all five Ryder Cup matches go 18 holes.

"If you didn't play well and didn't win a point, you're going to feel like you cost the team the Ryder Cup, versus if you won three out of four points and the team lost, you did your job and might not feel as bad.

“But we looked at it as though we lost, because we didn't take the trophy home.”

The feelings about a tie were not mutual.

Consider the opening line in The Palm Beach Post story from the late Tim Rosaforte:

“Tony Jacklin hugged the Ryder Cup to his chest and the gallery surrounding the 18th green at The Belfry roared its approval. ‘I said three days ago it was staying here, and it is by the skin of its teeth,’ the European Ryder Cup captain said.”

Sounds like a winner.

And these were the words from U.S. captain Raymond Floyd:

“I looked forward to going back with the Ryder Cup on the Concorde tomorrow. I’m not going back with the Ryder Cup, but I’m not going back a loser. We stopped the losing streak. We halved it.”

Sounds like a team that hadn't won in six years. It definitely wasn't a victory. It technically wasn't a loss. But it sure felt hollow.

“We don't count ties in the Ryder Cup,” Strange said.

The Walker Cup for amateurs ended in a tie in 1965. The Americans had won nine in a row following World War II, and according to an Associated Press story, “An agreement was reached that the cup will stay one year on each side of the Atlantic.”

The Daily Telegraph reported in 1989, “Europe will retain the Cup but presumably the Professional Golfers Association will match the gesture their American counterparts made 20 years ago when the Cup was held by both associations for 12 months until the next meeting.”

The Presidents Cup ended in a tie in South Africa in 2003.

The rule was for each team to pick a player for a sudden-death playoff — Tiger Woods for the U.S., Ernie Els for the International team. The tension was as great as ever, and Woods said it was “one of the most nerve-wracking moments I've ever had in golf.”

They halved three holes before it was too dark to continue. A tie was proposed, and U.S. captain Jack Nicklaus reminded his counterpart, Gary Player, the U.S. would retain the cup. The International team, particularly 23-year-old rookie Adam Scott, wanted nothing to do with that. They agreed to share the cup.

That remains the policy today.

Is a playoff the answer for the Solheim Cup or Ryder Cup in case of a tie? Maybe, but nothing like what Woods and Els endured. Team matches organically can come down to the match, such as the 1991 Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island or the 2019 Solheim Cup at Gleneagles.

Perhaps one solution is three matches of sudden death, the first team to two points wins. That at least keeps it a team outcome.

Lewis wasn't sure how to feel when a tiebreaker was proposed last year in Spain. It would make for better TV. It would be cleaner for the fans.

“But if you want to stick with the history of the event ... you probably stick with retaining the cup,” she said.

The Solheim Cup belongs to Europe, which goes for four in a row with a win — or a draw.

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FILE - United States' Lizette Salas celebrates with teammate United States' Lexi Thompson, left, after her singles match in the Solheim Cup golf tournament, Sunday, Aug. 20, 2017, in West Des Moines, Iowa. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall, File)

FILE - United States' Lizette Salas celebrates with teammate United States' Lexi Thompson, left, after her singles match in the Solheim Cup golf tournament, Sunday, Aug. 20, 2017, in West Des Moines, Iowa. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall, File)

FILE - Europe's Team Captain Suzann Pettersen lifts the trophy after wining the Solheim Cup golf tournament in Finca Cortesin, near Casares, southern Spain, Sunday, Sept. 24, 2023. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue, File)

FILE - Europe's Team Captain Suzann Pettersen lifts the trophy after wining the Solheim Cup golf tournament in Finca Cortesin, near Casares, southern Spain, Sunday, Sept. 24, 2023. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue, File)

FILE - Solheim Cup team US golfer captain Stacy Lewis reacts on the 18th hole during the foursomes play at the Solheim Cup in Finca Cortesin, near Casares, southern Spain, on Friday, Sept. 22, 2023. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue, File)

FILE - Solheim Cup team US golfer captain Stacy Lewis reacts on the 18th hole during the foursomes play at the Solheim Cup in Finca Cortesin, near Casares, southern Spain, on Friday, Sept. 22, 2023. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue, File)

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Exceptionally heavy rainfall pounding Central Europe has prompted deadly flooding in the region, with four new deaths reported Monday in Poland, three in the Czech Republic and one in Romania.

The flooding has swamped parts of Austria, the Czech Republic, Poland and Romania as a low-pressure system crossing the region has unleashed record-high rains for days, and it was expected to affect Slovakia and Hungary later in the week. So far 16 people have been reported killed — seven people in Romania, five in Poland, three in the Czech Republic and one in Austria.

In Poland, Prime Minister Donald Tusk held an emergency meeting and later declared a disaster in flooded areas, a government measure to facilitate evacuation and rescues. He also said the government would provide 1 billion zlotys ($258,000) in immediate payouts to victims.

The flooding in Poland has burst dams and embankments while receding waters left streets covered in piles of debris and mud. It prompted a hospital in the southwestern Polish city of Nysa to evacuate about 40 patients.

Schools and offices in the affected areas were closed Monday and drinking water and food were being delivered by trucks. Many Polish cities, including Warsaw, have called for food donations for flood survivors.

Experts warned of flood threats due to the cresting Oder River in Opole, a city of some 130,000 residents, and Wroclaw, home to about 640,000 residents and where disastrous flooding happened in 1997.

Firefighters in southwestern Poland said flood victims included a surgeon whose body was found Monday morning in Nysa after he returned from hospital duty. The bodies of two women and two other men have been found in other communities in the region.

Police in the Czech Republic said that a woman and two men drowned in the northeast, which has been pounded by record rainfall since Thursday. The woman was found in the water in the town of Krasov and the men were found dead at different locations after water receded in the town of Krnov which was almost completely submerged on Sunday

Romanian authorities said Monday that another person died in the eastern county of Galati, bringing the total number of deaths there to seven.

One death previously was reported in Austria.

Authorities in the Czech Republic declared an emergency in two northeastern regions, including in the Jeseniky mountains near the Polish border.

A number of towns and cities had been submerged in the northeast, with thousands evacuated. Military helicopters joined rescuers on boats in efforts to transport people to safety. Waters were receding from the mountainous areas on Monday, leaving behind destroyed houses and bridges and damaged roads.

In most parts of the country, conditions were expected to improve later Monday.

Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala visited the town of Jesenik, one of the hardest hit places.

“The worst is behind us and now, we have to deal with all the damage,” Fiala said following the visit.

In Hungary, the mayor of Budapest warned residents that the largest floods in a decade were expected to hit the capital later in the week, with the waters of the Danube River set to breach the city’s lower quays by Tuesday morning.

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán canceled his planned foreign engagements, including an address to a plenary session of the European Parliament on Wednesday where heated debates were expected over his conduct since Hungary took over the European Union’s rotating presidency in July.

“Until we reach the peak and get past the worst of it, I naturally won’t be leaving the country, I’ll be here at home,” he said.

Budapest Mayor Gergely Karácsony wrote on Facebook that the city would use 1 million sandbags to bolster flood defenses, and asked residents to take extra care when near the river.

Karel Janicek reported from Prague. Justin Spike contributed to this report from Budapest, Hungary.

Residents ride bicycles through a flooded street in Litovel, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Residents ride bicycles through a flooded street in Litovel, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident walks through a flooded street in Liotvel, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident walks through a flooded street in Liotvel, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident rides a bicycle through a flooded street in Litovel, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident rides a bicycle through a flooded street in Litovel, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A car is stucked on a river bank after recent floods in Domasov, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A car is stucked on a river bank after recent floods in Domasov, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

An aerial view of a flooded neighborhood in Ostrava, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

An aerial view of a flooded neighborhood in Ostrava, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

An aerial view of a flooded neighborhood in Ostrava, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

An aerial view of a flooded neighborhood in Ostrava, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

Soldiers build barriers with sandbags against flood water at the bank of Danube River in Pilismarot, Hungary, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Robert Hegedus/MTI via AP)

Soldiers build barriers with sandbags against flood water at the bank of Danube River in Pilismarot, Hungary, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Robert Hegedus/MTI via AP)

An aerial view of a flooded neighbourhood in Ostrava, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

An aerial view of a flooded neighbourhood in Ostrava, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

Soldiers build barriers with sandbags against flood water at the bank of Danube River in Pilismarot, Hungary, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Robert Hegedus/MTI via AP)

Soldiers build barriers with sandbags against flood water at the bank of Danube River in Pilismarot, Hungary, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Robert Hegedus/MTI via AP)

View of the river Elbe in flood, in Rathen, Germany, Monday Sept. 16, 2024. The water levels continue to rise in Saxony. (Jan Woitas/dpa via AP)

View of the river Elbe in flood, in Rathen, Germany, Monday Sept. 16, 2024. The water levels continue to rise in Saxony. (Jan Woitas/dpa via AP)

An electricity pylon stands in the flood waters of the Neisse, in the Hagenwerder district of Görlitz, Germany, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Paul Glaser/dpa via AP)

An electricity pylon stands in the flood waters of the Neisse, in the Hagenwerder district of Görlitz, Germany, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Paul Glaser/dpa via AP)

A view of the southern Görlitz district of Weinhübel and the Neiße river overflowing its banks, in Germany, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Paul Glaser/dpa via AP)

A view of the southern Görlitz district of Weinhübel and the Neiße river overflowing its banks, in Germany, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Paul Glaser/dpa via AP)

Dark clouds are seen over the Parliament building in Budapest, Hungary, during the flooding of the Danube river on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

Dark clouds are seen over the Parliament building in Budapest, Hungary, during the flooding of the Danube river on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

People fill sandbags to reinforce the dam due to the flooding of the Danube river at Tahitotfalu, Hungary, on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

People fill sandbags to reinforce the dam due to the flooding of the Danube river at Tahitotfalu, Hungary, on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

People fill sandbags to reinforce the dam due to the flooding of the Danube river at Tahitotfalu, Hungary, on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

People fill sandbags to reinforce the dam due to the flooding of the Danube river at Tahitotfalu, Hungary, on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

A dam is built to protect Margaret Island in Budapest, Hungary, due to the flooding of the Danube river on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

A dam is built to protect Margaret Island in Budapest, Hungary, due to the flooding of the Danube river on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

Dark clouds are seen over the Parliament building in Budapest, Hungary, during the flooding of the Danube river on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

Dark clouds are seen over the Parliament building in Budapest, Hungary, during the flooding of the Danube river on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

People fill sandbags to reinforce the dam due to the flooding of the Danube river at Tahitotfalu, Hungary, on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

People fill sandbags to reinforce the dam due to the flooding of the Danube river at Tahitotfalu, Hungary, on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Denes Erdos)

View of the Bratislava castle as the water level of the Danube river rises during recent floods in Slovakia, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Tomas Hrivnak)

View of the Bratislava castle as the water level of the Danube river rises during recent floods in Slovakia, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Tomas Hrivnak)

An aerial view of the River Neisse overflowing its banks, south of Görlitz, Germany, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Paul Glaser/dpa via AP)

An aerial view of the River Neisse overflowing its banks, south of Görlitz, Germany, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Paul Glaser/dpa via AP)

An aerial view of a flooded neighbourhood in Ostrava, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

An aerial view of a flooded neighbourhood in Ostrava, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

This handout photo provided by the Polish fire department, shows a flooded area near the Nysa Klodzka river in Nysa, Poland on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (KG PSP Photo via AP)

This handout photo provided by the Polish fire department, shows a flooded area near the Nysa Klodzka river in Nysa, Poland on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (KG PSP Photo via AP)

This handout photo provided by the Polish fire department, shows a flooded area near the Nysa Klodzka river in Nysa, Poland on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (KG PSP Photo via AP)

This handout photo provided by the Polish fire department, shows a flooded area near the Nysa Klodzka river in Nysa, Poland on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (KG PSP Photo via AP)

This handout photo provided by the Polish fire department, shows a flooded area near the Nysa Klodzka river in Nysa, Poland on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (KG PSP Photo via AP)

This handout photo provided by the Polish fire department, shows a flooded area near the Nysa Klodzka river in Nysa, Poland on Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (KG PSP Photo via AP)

A resident struggles through mud to his house after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident struggles through mud to his house after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Residents look at the damage done by recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Residents look at the damage done by recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Residents walk through debris after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Residents walk through debris after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Residents look at the damage done by recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Residents look at the damage done by recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident rides a motorcycle after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident rides a motorcycle after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A view of the damage done by recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A view of the damage done by recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

View of the destroyed bridge after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

View of the destroyed bridge after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident struggles through mud to his house after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident struggles through mud to his house after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Resident struggle through mud after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Resident struggle through mud after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident looks at his damaged car after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A resident looks at his damaged car after recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

Two German Federal Police officers patrol at the border crossing to Poland in Frankfurt/Oder, Germany, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Patrick Pleul/dpa via AP)

Two German Federal Police officers patrol at the border crossing to Poland in Frankfurt/Oder, Germany, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (Patrick Pleul/dpa via AP)

A view of the damage done by recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

A view of the damage done by recent floods in Jesenik, Czech Republic, Monday, Sept. 16, 2024. (AP Photo/Petr David Josek)

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