After 20 years and a move to Berlin, Xiu Xiu is still making music for outsiders

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Since its inception more than two decades ago, the experimental rock band Xiu Xiu has danced between extremes. They’ve made music — drenched in synthesizers, breathy vocals and distorted guitar — that is somehow both cacophonous and beautiful, frightening yet poignant, avant-garde yet (mostly) melodic.

In other words, Xiu Xiu’s music can’t be placed neatly into a box, something the band’s leader, Jamie Stewart, knows a thing or two about.

“I don’t say this in a self-aggrandizing way, but I am a very weird person,” Stewart said. “I wish I wasn’t. It’s not fun operating in the world in a way that doesn’t really fit.”

As the prolific band gears up to release their 18th LP, out Friday, Stewart recognizes the ways in which these feelings of otherness have been meaningful for their art and their audience.

“Xiu Xiu is certainly not for everybody. But it is for very specific people, generally for people who are, in one way or another, kind of on the edge of some aspect of life,” Stewart said. “That’s the group of people that we are and that is the group of people for whom we are trying to make records.”

But even as they've stayed weird, Stewart admits there was a shift on “13'' Frank Beltrame Italian Stiletto with Bison Horn Grips” — a reference to one of Stewart’s switchblades that served as a kind of “talismanic item” during the recording process.

“Almost every single track is set up in the very traditional way that Western folk songs are organized — as a bridge, as a verse, as a chorus. So, in that way, because it’s a style of organizing music that people in the Western world have been aware of for 200 years, it is probably accessible,” they said. “It seems to happen with every record we have ever done where somebody says, ‘It’s their most accessible record,’ which sort of implies to a lot of people that our records must therefore be inaccessible.”

But that accessibility is varied, from the anthemic, easy-listen lead single, “Common Loon,” to “Piña, Coconut & Cherry,” the record’s final song that culminates with Stewart belting bloodcurdling screams about a love that makes them insane.

That variation is a reflection of the types of artists Stewart loves, which ranges from Prince and folk musicians to people who make the most “difficult music that has ever been recorded.”

The band currently comprises Stewart — the sole remaining founding member — along with David Kendrick and Angela Seo, who joined in 2009. Seo says collaborating with any creative partner for 15 years takes work but that her respect for Stewart’s vision and creativity serve as a kind of anchor to keep them together, even when they fight over Stewart being “super picky” about every detail in the studio and on stage.

“I think it’s frustrating, but ultimately we both are like, 'Yeah, that's the goal.' The goal is just to make this the best show possible. And that kind of helps us stick with it,” Seo said.

After living as roommates in Los Angeles for a decade, Seo and Stewart moved to Berlin together through an artist residency program that helped them get visas and paid for their housing during their first few months there. And while living in Berlin has been more practical and financially sustainable, Stewart said it's been a bigger adjustment than expected.

“It’s a little boring,” Stewart admitted. “It’s much safer. I’m much, much, much less stressed out. I don’t have to have a car, which is great. If I have a major health problem, it’s going to be totally fine. Those things are great. The adult parts are great."

“Horn Grips” is the band's first album since their move to Berlin, and that change of scenery has inevitably informed the album's sound. How it does so in future albums is something Stewart is thinking about.

“I’ve been struggling with that a little bit and am just realizing that my external environment for a long time was a big point of inspiration,” Stewart said. “I don’t feel like my creativity is stifled, but it is going through a period of needing to adjust, which is a good thing.”

Angela Seo of the band Xiu Xiu poses for a portrait in Berlin, Germany, Wednesday, Aug. 28, 2024. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)

Angela Seo, left, and Jamie Stewart of the band Xiu Xiu pose for a portrait in Berlin, Germany, Wednesday, Aug. 28, 2024. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)

Angela Seo, left, and Jamie Stewart of the band Xiu Xiu pose for a portrait in Berlin, Germany, Wednesday, Aug. 28, 2024. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)

Angela Seo, left, and Jamie Stewart of the band Xiu Xiu pose for a portrait in Berlin, Germany, Wednesday, Aug. 28, 2024. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)

Angela Seo, left, and Jamie Stewart of the band Xiu Xiu pose for a portrait in Berlin, Germany, Wednesday, Aug. 28, 2024. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)

Angela Seo, left, and Jamie Stewart of the band Xiu Xiu pose for a portrait in Berlin, Germany, Wednesday, Aug. 28, 2024. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)

TOKYO (AP) — Japan’s governing party on Friday picked former Defense Minister Shigeru Ishiba as its leader, setting him up to become prime minister next week.

The party leadership is a ticket to the top job because the Liberal Democratic Party’s governing coalition controls parliament.

Considered a defense policy expert, Ishiba secured a come-from-behind win against Economic Security Minister Sanae Takaichi, a staunch conservative who hoped to become the country’s first female prime minister.

The LDP, which has enjoyed nearly unbroken rule since World War II, may have seen Ishiba's more centrist views as crucial in pushing back challenges by the liberal-leaning opposition and winning voter support as the party reels from corruption scandals that drove down outgoing Prime Minister Fumio Kishida's popularity.

After his victory was announced, Ishiba stood up, waved and bowed repeatedly and pledged to “devote all my body and soul" to regain public trust.

“We must be a party that allows members to discuss the truth freely, a party that is fair and impartial and a party that is humble,” he told a news conference later Friday.

He stressed Japan needs to reinforce its security, noting recent violations of Japanese airspace by Russian and Chinese warplanes and repeated missile launches by North Korea.

He pledged to continue Kishida's economic policy aimed at pulling Japan out of deflation and achieving real salary increases, while tackling challenges such as Japan's declining birthrate and population, as well as resilience in one of the world's most disaster-prone countries.

“I will achieve a society in which women and young people can have hope, hard-working people feel rewarded, and anyone can excel,” Ishiba said.

He is expected to call a general election within weeks to capitalize on his win, but it is unclear when. He only said that he would seek the public's mandate at an appropriate time after forming his new administration.

Ishiba has proposed an Asian version of the NATO military alliance, and said Friday that the idea is to form “an organic connection” of existing U.S.-led defense networks such as the ANZUS alliance with Australia and New Zealand and its alliances with South Korea and the Philippines. “We have to think how we can achieve peace and stability in this region,” he said.

He also suggested a more equal Japan-U.S. security alliance, and said having Japanese Self Defense Forces training bases in the United States would “contribute to the strengthening of the Japan-U.S. security alliance,” though he did not elaborate.

He is a supporter of Taiwan’ s democracy. He also advocates the establishment of a disaster management agency in one of the world’s most disaster-prone countries.

Ishiba, first elected to parliament in 1986, has served as defense minister, agriculture minister and in other key Cabinet posts, and was LDP secretary general under former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

But he has long been viewed with wariness by powerful conservatives in his party. The 67-year-old former banker was running in the party leadership race for a fifth time and had said this was going to be his “final battle.”

A hawk on defense issues, Ishiba has riled some party leaders by supporting measures to improve gaps between men and women and legalizing same-sex marriage.

A record nine lawmakers, including two women, ran in the vote decided by LDP members of parliament and about 1 million dues-paying party members. That’s only 1% of the country’s eligible voters.

Some experts believe that party turmoil could mean that Japan will return to an era similar to the early 2000s, which saw “revolving door” leadership changes and political instability.

A succession of short-lived governments hurts Japanese prime ministers' ability to set up long-term policy goals or develop trusted relations with other leaders.

On Tuesday, Kishida and his Cabinet ministers will resign. Ishiba, after being formally elected in a parliamentary vote, will then form a new Cabinet later in the day, he said.

Kishida congratulated Ishiba on his victory and said his election is the first step for a new LDP.

“The LDP will be reborn and will live up to the people's expectations and achieve results,” he said. As Japan faces security tensions in the region and elsewhere, Japan must step up its own defense power and its ties with the United States, he said.

South Korea, which has substantially improved ties with Japan over the past year in the face of an increasingly assertive China, said in a Foreign Ministry statement that it was looking forward to “continuing active exchanges with the new prime minister.”

The main opposition group, the liberal-leaning Constitutional Democratic Party of Japan, has struggled to build momentum despite the LDP scandals. Experts say its newly elected leader, centrist former Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda, is pushing a conservative shift for the party to attract swing voters.

Voters expressed hope that Ishiba would bring a positive change to politics.

“I think the LDP made a wise decision,” said Takeshi Irita, a 64-year-old engineer. “He is among the most realistic and stable ones and his mindset is relatively closer to the public."

Hideko Arakawa, an 84-year-old retiree, said she has high expectations because of Ishiba's expertise as a veteran lawmaker. “I hope he strives to make changes in Japan,” she said.

AP video journalist Chisato Tanaka and Kim Tong-hyung in Seoul, South Korea, contributed.

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Shigeru Ishiba, the newly elected leader of Japan's ruling party, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) holds a press conference after the LDP leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kim Kyung-Hoon/Pool Photo via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, the newly elected leader of Japan's ruling party, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) holds a press conference after the LDP leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kim Kyung-Hoon/Pool Photo via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, the newly elected leader of Japan's ruling party, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) holds a press conference after the LDP leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kim Kyung-Hoon/Pool Photo via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, the newly elected leader of Japan's ruling party, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) holds a press conference after the LDP leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kim Kyung-Hoon/Pool Photo via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, the newly elected leader of Japan's ruling party, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) poses in the party leader's office after the LDP leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kim Kyung-Hoon/Pool Photo via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, center, celebrates after he was elected as new head of Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) during the party's leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Shigeru Ishiba, center, waves as he is elected as leader of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party after the party's leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kyodo News via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, the newly elected leader of Japan's ruling party, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) looks on, during a press conference after the LDP leadership election, in Tokyo, Friday, Sept 27, 2024. (Kim Kyung/Pool Photo via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, the newly elected leader of Japan's ruling party, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) holds a press conference after the LDP leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kim Kyung-Hoon/Pool Photo via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, the newly elected leader of Japan's ruling party, the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) holds a press conference after the LDP leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kim Kyung-Hoon/Pool Photo via AP)

A pedestrian takes a copie of an extra edition of the Yomiuri newspaper reporting on Shigeru Ishiba becoming the winner of the Liberal Democratic Party's presidential election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae)

Shigeru Ishiba, center, waves as he is elected as leader of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party after the party's leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kyodo News via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, right, with Japan's Prime Minister Fumio Kishida, left, and other candidates, celebrates after Ishiba was elected as new head of Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party during its leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Shigeru Ishiba, center, celebrates after he was elected as new head of Japan's ruling party at the Liberal Democratic Party's leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Shigeru Ishiba speaks before a runoff election at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, at the party headquarters in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

TV sets show a news proram reporting that Shigeru Ishiba is elected as leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, at an electronic shop in Urayasu, near Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kyodo News via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba acknowledges after he was elected as new head of Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) during the party's leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Shigeru Ishiba, center, waves as he is elected as leader of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party after the party's leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kyodo News via AP)

Shigeru Ishiba, center, celebrates after he was elected as new head of Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) during the party's leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Shigeru Ishiba, center, waves as he is elected as leader of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party after the party's leadership election, in Tokyo Friday, Sept. 27, 2024. (Kyodo News via AP)

Sanae Takaichi speaks before a runoff election at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, at the party headquarters in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Shigeru Ishiba speaks before a runoff election at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, at the party headquarters in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Officials show the result of the first voting to Election Commission during the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election at the party headquarters Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

One of candidates, Shinjiro Koizumi, right, casts his ballot at the ruling Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election at the party headquarters, Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Shigeru Ishiba acknowledges after he was elected as new head of Japan's ruling party at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, at the party headquarters in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Sanae Takaichi speaks before a runoff election at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Shigeru Ishiba speaks before a runoff election at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, at the party headquarters in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Officials count ballots during the ruling Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election at the party headquarters Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Party members cast their ballots at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Officials count ballots during the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election at the LDP headquarters Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Officials count ballots during the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election at the LDP headquarters Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

One of candidates Taro Kono, center, casts his ballot at the ruling Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

One of candidates, Toshimitsu Motegi, right, casts his ballot at the ruling Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

One of candidates, Yoshimasa Hayashi, center, casts his ballot at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Japan's Prime Minister Fumio Kishida, center, casts his ballot at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

Japan's Foreign Minister and one of the candidates Yoko Kamikawa casts her ballot at the Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

One of candidates Shigeru Ishiba casts his ballot at the ruling Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) leadership election Friday, Sept. 27, 2024, in Tokyo. (AP Photo/Hiro Komae, Pool)

FILE - Japan's Prime Minister Fumio Kishida listens at the Quad leaders summit at Archmere Academy in Claymont, Del., Saturday, Sept. 21, 2024. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein, File)

FILE - Candidates for Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party's (LDP) presidential election pose for a photo before a debate at the Japan National Press Club in Tokyo, on Sept. 14, 2024. From left are Economic Security Minister Sanae Takaichi, former Economic Security Minister Takayuki Kobayashi, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshimasa Hayashi, former Environment Minister Shinjiro Koizumi, Foreign Minister Yoko Kamikawa, former Chief Cabinet Secretary Katsunobu Kato, Digital Minister Taro Kono, former Defense Minister Shigeru Ishiba and Liberal Democratic Party Secretary General Toshimitsu Motegi. (Takashi Aoyama/Pool Photo via AP, File)