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Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

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Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

2024-10-09 06:16 Last Updated At:06:20

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — The once-surging New Orleans Saints are now slumping and unsure when quarterback Derek Carr will be able to play again following his oblique injury during the club's third straight loss.

Carr left Monday night's loss at Kansas City with a left oblique injury, and coach Dennis Allen did not provide any medical updates on Tuesday when he spoke with reporters after analyzing video of New Orleans' latest setback.

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New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr speaks during a news conference following an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr speaks during a news conference following an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints quarterback Jake Haener (3) drops back to pass during the second half of an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints quarterback Jake Haener (3) drops back to pass during the second half of an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints tight end Foster Moreau, left, catches a touchdown pass as Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Leo Chenal (54) defends during the second half of an NFL football game Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints tight end Foster Moreau, left, catches a touchdown pass as Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Leo Chenal (54) defends during the second half of an NFL football game Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints head coach Dennis Allen pauses during a news conference following an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. The Chiefs won 26-13. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints head coach Dennis Allen pauses during a news conference following an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. The Chiefs won 26-13. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr (4) throws over Kansas City Chiefs nose tackle Mike Pennel (69) during the first half of an NFL football game Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr (4) throws over Kansas City Chiefs nose tackle Mike Pennel (69) during the first half of an NFL football game Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

Carr pledged that he’d do everything he could to be ready by this Sunday, but the NFL Network has reported that Carr is expected to miss miss multiple games.

In Carr's absence, the Saints could start either Jake Haener, a 2023 fourth-round draft pick out of Fresno State, or rookie Spencer Rattler, a fifth-round draft choice out of South Carolina.

Rattler has yet to play a snap in a regular-season game.

Haener has had mop-up duty several times and came in for Carr late in the fourth quarter against Kansas City, completing 2 of 7 passes for 17 yards.

Allen said Haener “did fine,” considering the circumstances.

“He was under duress a lot,” Allen said. “It got to that point in the game where they were kind of cutting loose on the pass rush. I don’t think there were a lot of opportunities for him.”

While the 26-13 score in Kansas City represented New Orleans' first loss by more than three points this season, it also belied how dominant the defending champion Chiefs really were — despite some key injuries of their own.

The Saints possessed the ball for a mere one-third of the game (20:04), were more than doubled up in total yards (460 to 220) and had half as many first downs (14) as the Chiefs did (28).

“Obviously we played a good football team in a hostile environment and we didn't fare well," Allen said. “That just tells us we've got a lot of work to do.”

While Allen said the whole club was frustrated over its "lack of ability to really get anything going offensively," the third-year Saints coach stopped short of foreshadowing significant personnel changes in Week 6.

The coaching staff needs to consider: “What's our part in that?” Allen said. "How can we put our guys in better positions to have success?”

One thing Allen wants to avoid is a locker room full of disgruntled players who start pointing fingers and fracturing.

“We've just got to stick together as a group," Allen said. “The only way you can turn things around is to be a united front.”

New Orleans' defense has remained pretty resilient in the red zone, holding Kansas City to just two TDs on seven possessions that ended at or inside the Saints 20-yard line. The other five red-zone possessions resulted in four field goals and an interception.

The Saints' running game, which averaged 185 yards in Weeks 1 and 2, hit its lowest point this season at Kansas City, gaining a meager 46 yards on 15 carries.

Defensive tackle Khalen Saunders had a strong showing in his second game this season since returning from a calf injury. His highlights included his first career interception on a tipped ball in New Orleans' end zone. Saunders not only stopped Kansas City from scoring, but also returned the ball 37 yards to ignite a touchdown drive that briefly pulled the Saints within a field goal in the second half.

Offensive coordinator Klint Kubiak might have been the most popular person in New Orleans through Week 2, when the Saints had scored 91 points and had blown out their first two opponents.

Since then, his offense has sputtered.

His game plans might have been hampered by multiple injuries on the offensive line. In any event, scoring has plummeted to an average of 16.3 points per game during New Orleans' three-game skid.

“It’s a difficult thing to do to have that many changes on your offensive line," Allen said. "And yet, we’ve got to figure out ways that we can still move the ball.”

In addition to Carr, the Saints lost safety Will Harris to a hamstring injury.

It remains unclear how soon versatile tight end Taysom Hill might return from a rib injury. Linebacker Pete Werner (hamstring) also did not travel for Monday night's game.

29 — The difference between the number of offensive plays run by the Chiefs (80) and the Saints (51) on Monday night.

The Saints return to New Orleans for a pair of home games in the span of five days. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who traveled to New Orleans on Tuesday to escape the path of Hurricane Milton, play at the Superdome on Sunday.

Former Saints coach Sean Payton — the only coach to bring New Orleans a Super Bowl title — brings Denver into the dome on the following Thursday night.

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New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr speaks during a news conference following an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr speaks during a news conference following an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints quarterback Jake Haener (3) drops back to pass during the second half of an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints quarterback Jake Haener (3) drops back to pass during the second half of an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints tight end Foster Moreau, left, catches a touchdown pass as Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Leo Chenal (54) defends during the second half of an NFL football game Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints tight end Foster Moreau, left, catches a touchdown pass as Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Leo Chenal (54) defends during the second half of an NFL football game Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints head coach Dennis Allen pauses during a news conference following an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. The Chiefs won 26-13. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

New Orleans Saints head coach Dennis Allen pauses during a news conference following an NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. The Chiefs won 26-13. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

Banged up, slumping Saints now face uncertainty at QB as they try to end a 3-game skid

New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr (4) throws over Kansas City Chiefs nose tackle Mike Pennel (69) during the first half of an NFL football game Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr (4) throws over Kansas City Chiefs nose tackle Mike Pennel (69) during the first half of an NFL football game Monday, Oct. 7, 2024, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

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Jalen Williams scores 33 points, Thunder remain red-hot by topping Heat 104-97

2024-12-21 11:34 Last Updated At:11:40

MIAMI (AP) — Jalen Williams scored a season-high 33 points, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander had 25 and the Oklahoma City Thunder beat the Miami Heat 104-97 on Friday night for their seventh straight victory.

Lu Dort scored 14 points and Isaiah Hartenstein had 13 points and 18 rebounds for the Thunder, who improved to 22-5 — the second-best record in the NBA and tops in the Western Conference.

Oklahoma City's winning streak is alive because the NBA Cup final — a loss Tuesday night to Milwaukee in Las Vegas — doesn't count as a regular-season game.

Tyler Herro had 28 points and 12 rebounds for Miami, which got 17 points and 10 rebounds from Bam Adebayo.

The Heat lost Jimmy Butler to illness in the first quarter and briefly lost Adebayo in the third quarter when he got elbowed over an eye by teammate Jaime Jaquez Jr. Adebayo needed seven stitches but returned.

Thunder: Williams' previous season high was 31. And the big difference for the Thunder was turnovers — they turned 19 Miami giveaways into 27 points.

Heat: Managing general partner Micky Arison and senior director of team development Ruth Riley Hunter — an NCAA, Olympic and WNBA champion — are Basketball Hall of Fame candidates for the Class of 2025. “It's about time” for Arison, said Heat coach Erik Spoelstra, who added that those like Hunter — with college, pro and Olympic titles — should be a Hall lock.

Oklahoma City trailed by three midway through the third quarter, then went on a 10-0 run to kickstart a finishing push. The Thunder were up by 11 entering the fourth.

Gilgeous-Alexander has scored at least 25 points in 17 consecutive games, the longest such streak in the NBA this season.

The Thunder host Washington on Monday. The Heat are at Orlando on Saturday.

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Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier (2) drives to the basket as Oklahoma City Thunder guard Aaron Wiggins (21) defends during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier (2) drives to the basket as Oklahoma City Thunder guard Aaron Wiggins (21) defends during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder center Isaiah Hartenstein (55) and Miami Heat center Bam Adebayo (13) go after a ball before it goes out of bounds during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder center Isaiah Hartenstein (55) and Miami Heat center Bam Adebayo (13) go after a ball before it goes out of bounds during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder head coach Mark Daigneault gestures during the first half of an NBA basketball game against the Miami Heat, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder head coach Mark Daigneault gestures during the first half of an NBA basketball game against the Miami Heat, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Miami Heat guard Tyler Herro (14) drives to the basket during the first half of an NBA basketball game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Miami Heat guard Tyler Herro (14) drives to the basket during the first half of an NBA basketball game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Miami Heat forward Duncan Robinson (55) drives to the basket as Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2) defends during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Miami Heat forward Duncan Robinson (55) drives to the basket as Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2) defends during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder guard Aaron Wiggins (21) defends Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier (2) during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder guard Aaron Wiggins (21) defends Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier (2) during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder forward Jalen Williams (8) drives to the basket as Miami Heat center Bam Adebayo (13) defends during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder forward Jalen Williams (8) drives to the basket as Miami Heat center Bam Adebayo (13) defends during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Miami Heat guard Dru Smith (12) dribbles the ball as Oklahoma City Thunder guard Aaron Wiggins (21) defends during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Miami Heat guard Dru Smith (12) dribbles the ball as Oklahoma City Thunder guard Aaron Wiggins (21) defends during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder guards Aaron Wiggins (21) andLuguentz Dort (5) defend Miami Heat guard Jaime Jaquez Jr. (11) during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

Oklahoma City Thunder guards Aaron Wiggins (21) andLuguentz Dort (5) defend Miami Heat guard Jaime Jaquez Jr. (11) during the first half of an NBA basketball game, Friday, Dec. 20, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

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